Yearly Archives: 2010

Nice revival-Welcome and greetings

From: Dr. M.Jayaram [mailto:jmailankody@GMAIL.COM]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:55 AM
Subject: Nice revival-Welcome and greetings

Hello all,

Happy to see the revived, after 9 months of hibernation! Nothing is as good to freely express our minds orthodontically.

Greetings for Christmas and a Happy 2011.

Looking forward to see ESCO in more interactive, informative mode and as useful orthodontic resource.

Jayaram Mailankody

About Forsus/Twinforce

From: Marco Tribò [mailto:marco.tribo@tribo.ch]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 2:53 AM
To: ‘The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics’
Subject: About Forsus/Twinforce

Welcome back to the sleeping beauty Esco Digest!

About Forsus/Twinforce

We have been using both with the following results:

1. Both works
2. Twinforce is about 1.8 x more expensive (in Switzerland)
3. Considerably less breakage with forsus
4. Both are easy to handle
5. Twinforce offers a version that can be fixed to the upper and lower wire (no need of Bands on upper first molars)
6. Forsus slides on the lower wire and rests on the cuspid bracket. This can cause problems: rotation of cuspids and the brackets can be detached.

So finally it is a personal preference and depends also on the type of appliance/patient that you are treating. As we all know we have patients that are very careful and then we have others…

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all out there!

Marco Tribò

The rebirth of ESCO

From: Stanley Sokolow [mailto:stanleysokolow@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:37 AM
To: The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics
Subject: The rebirth of ESCO

I too had thought that ESCO was dead, abandoned.   No only was I no longer getting digests, but also when I visited the ESCO site, it looked like nothing had been added for a very long time.    I was surprised to see these recent messages (below) come through from ESCO’s listserver.   So, I did a Google search and found that ESCO has moved to a web-based forum at https://escoforum.wordpress.com/ .    Too bad we didn’t get an announcement through the old listserver system.   But now you know.   Go visit the new site if you want to stay in touch with ESCO members.

I should also point out that a few years ago, I created a forum site for orthodontists, organized into categories and topics rather than free-form stream of consciousness postings that the listserver provided.  It is located at dontics.org/forum and called the “Worldwide Orthodontics Forum”.   After a short burst of curiosity and registrations by ESCO members, the forum became stagnant, with no new postings, but it still is functional.    You need to register to see the main meat of the forum postings.   Send an email to info@dontics.org to register for “Worldwide Orthodontics Forum”.  There are instructions for use of the forum in the General Information category there.

Stan Sokolow, DDS
Orthodontist
Santa Cruz, California

Re: The rebirth of ESCO

Dear Dr. Sokolow and all ESCO subscribers,

Glad to hear the rebirth of ESCO and the new ESCO Forum brought you so much excitement!

In the past year, we have been experiencing some unknown technical problem with the Listserv which even cannot be solved. All messages we received were spam emails. We tried to send out announcement but failed many times. We tried to contact the tech support to solve the problems. However, we were told that nothing was wrong with the ESCO listserv, and every setting seemed to be normal. The tech support people have no idea what blocked the incoming messages from our subscribers.

Therefore, we started thinking a new way to rebuild ESCO. So it comes the ESCO Forum (www.escoforum.wordpress.com). We have discovered many new features that can benefit our subscribers, including 1. Archiving; 2. Categories of postings; 3. Tags of postings and replies; 4. Power search function for people to search by categories or tags; 5. Multiple layer of nested comments so reader can track related comments; 6. Easy use interface; 7. No need to log in for general subscribers. (Just need to put their name, email, and text in an online form if they wish to comment.).

Something interesting is that after we tested the ESCO Forum for three months, the old ESCO listserv suddenly resumed to work for unknown reason. However, we are not sure how long the listserv service will last. If we rely only on the old listserv technology, we might experience similar difficulty like what happened in the past 12 months. Therefore, we will let both old and new formats of ESCO run for a few months and make further decisions.

We truly hope everyone who loves ESCO enjoy the new ESCO Forum, stay tune to future postings and participate in discussion in any orthodontic topics. It’s because of you that ESCO can thrive. Thanks a lot!

Happy Holidays!

Best regards,
Huibi Liu

Original post: The rebirth of ESCO
Posted on December 22, 2010 by ESCO Forum| 1 Comment | Edit

From: Stanley Sokolow [mailto:stanleysokolow@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 10:37 AM
To: The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics
Subject: The rebirth of ESCO

I too had thought that ESCO was dead, abandoned.   No only was I no longer getting digests, but also when I visited the ESCO site, it looked like nothing had been added for a very long time.    I was surprised to see these recent messages (below) come through from ESCO’s listserver.   So, I did a Google search and found that ESCO has moved to a web-based forum at https://escoforum.wordpress.com/ .    Too bad we didn’t get an announcement through the old listserver system.   But now you know.   Go visit the new site if you want to stay in touch with ESCO members.

I should also point out that a few years ago, I created a forum site for orthodontists, organized into categories and topics rather than free-form stream of consciousness postings that the listserver provided.  It is located at dontics.org/forum and called the “Worldwide Orthodontics Forum”.   After a short burst of curiosity and registrations by ESCO members, the forum became stagnant, with no new postings, but it still is functional.    You need to register to see the main meat of the forum postings.   Send an email to info@dontics.org to register for “Worldwide Orthodontics Forum”.  There are instructions for use of the forum in the General Information category there.

Stan Sokolow, DDS
Orthodontist
Santa Cruz, California

CS-2000

From: Roy King [mailto:rkking@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 8:00 PM
To: ‘The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics’
Subject: RE: ESCO Digest – 18 Apr 2010 to 19 Dec 2010 (#2010-2)

Dear ESCO,

This is a ghost from the past and appropriate for Christmas. I have used CS-2000 and I am getting breakage(more than what I would like). It feels like a good 33% but I have not measured it. Does anybody love this appliance.

Roy King

Treating patients with periapcal cemental dysplasia

From: ALAN BOBKIN [mailto:abobkin@rogers.com]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:15 AM
To: The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics
Subject: Treating patients with periapcal cemental dysplasia

Hello All

Does anyone have any experience treating patients with periapcal cemental dysplasia.  The patient has sen a periodontist who is satisfied that her periodontal condition is stable enough for tx.  The patient has large spaces which she would like closed.  No extractions are necessary for treatment (contraindicated for PCD).  I would like to know how the PCD would affedt space closure.  Literature is sparse.
 
Dr. Alan Bobkin

2 Questions: 1) ESCO still alive; 2) Twin-Force bite corrector springs

Date:         Sun, 12 Dec 2010 09:01:20 -0500
From:         “Dr. Blair Adams” <adams.blair@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: ESCO Digest – 27 Dec 2009 to 18 Apr 2010 (#2010-1)

Hello;

I have 2 questions;

1; Is ESCO still alive? I haven’t had messages in about 12 months, but I
recently received some kind of test message that said; “do not reply”
How can I ensure I get the messages if I do not reply?

2; I have been using the Unitek Forsus springs with good success. What
about the “Twin-Force bite corrector springs? Has anyone used both
appliances? Is one better / cheaper / faster / less breakable than the
other?

If Dr Nanda is using the twin force; there must be something to it.

Dr Blair Adams
Ottawa